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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Sonva Lat
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet OP, CCP have always been adamant in not returning the old hangar view.
They used to be adamant that all the WiS stuff would be completely optional and you would never have to leave your ship if you didn't want to.
They were also adamant that we would never see our ships in WIS because it would be too big a technical hurdle.
In other words, ôadamantö in CCP terms equates roughly to ôlooser and more flexible than mashed bananas.ö
Theyre pretty adamant theyre not gonna put in gold ammo an non vanity items too
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Denidil tippia.. you realize there is this thing called the session timer.
And you realise that you can do other things in the meantime, right? The less time you have to spend wrestling with the UI (or, for that matter, waiting for pointless junk to be shuffled onto the gfx card) to make things appear that should be (and were) immediately available, the more you can get done in those 30s.
Quote: you're just whining about change.
So if CCP automatically transferred all your assets to my hangar and wallet, you would be ok with that, because you like change. Good to know. I'll go petition for that to happen right away. 
No. I'm opposing the illogical, needless and pointless removal of functions, features and options in a game whose core concept is for players to create their own gameplay experience.
lol tippia this thread is full of win and ppl that dont care about what CCP does. The old buzzword was "entitlement" looks like the new phrase is "Arguing against change" cause I see every other person spouting it. Its almost used as often as the troll label. And why? Cause CCP said it. and they know best sig: -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.01 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Foofad I really hate it when people speak for "the player base," as if they had any idea what each individual really wanted or liked in a feature. For my part, I love CQ. I love the contrast of just being a person for a little while against being a space battleship when out and about. I love the additional immersion, the bright screens in the room, the holograms, the mirror, being able to walk out to the balcony and look at my ship from afar. It's ****ing cool, and I can't wait to see what they do with it.
So in summary, stop saying "the player base" hates Incarna. Because I sure don't, and nor do I miss ship spinning and the old hangar interface.
I really hate it when ppl who cant read have their handlers post for them -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.01 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Worrier
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
I really hate it when ppl who cant read have their handlers post for them
Quote: lol when you cant win insult the person debating
see? I was right
Although to be fair, that wasnt the case there as the quotes poster obviously didnt read the post they were replying to, not that I couldnt win against them. I was commenting on THAT.
dude, seriously, try harder on your trolling next time. -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
I noticed how in your relatively verbose narration you've done your usual brown-nosing and misrepresenting while managing to completely avoid the subject matter of this thread. Nice!
lol you wanna see that, go here -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.01 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus
Nah honestly tho, that was only part of it, I just needed a break from the game itself, Dominion was my reason, something I could actually be legitimately disgruntled over, etc.
I think that was my first time I took a break, when you warp into a lvl 4, and by the time you log onto the grid you are in a pod. I got the battleship I was using recompensensed every time but it made it unplayable -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Keep rejoicing as this game circles the drain like some event horizon, inexorably bringing it to it's destruction, unable to escape the gravity well of sheer smug and bankrupt ideology that is the new business ethos while to those stuck in it time appears standstill, they can't even see the end coming.
Originally by: Ethan Bejorn CCP is the destroyer of worlds.
Happy prospects :D Wonder if the Goons are happy yet -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Originally by: Mendolus Proof please?
[ 2011.08.09 19:01:53 ] CCP Habakuk2 > The docking and undocking changes are basically a requirement for multiplayer rooms in stations, which can be located on different server-nodes as the station itself. [ 2011.08.09 19:02:05 ] CCP Habakuk2 > A good side-effect is, that the session change timers within the station for changing ships are gone.
It's a side effect of Carbon being unable to function around basic parameters to get WIS up and running. Weigh this behavior against CCP's historic performance and tendency to ham fist things as simple as PI and you can draw a multitude of conclusions.
but HE wont lol -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 02:06:00 -
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NOW IM ****ED THEY LIED TO US THAT THE SERVER WOULD BE UP!!!!!
j/k -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Faffywaffy Edited by: Faffywaffy on 02/09/2011 03:59:29 I am not sure what all the confusion is about.
Anyone with half a brain can see that CQ and the WiS that will follow are CCPs effort of getting more money out of people who are interested in paying for such things as virtual monocles or clothing. In order for this to be appealing to them, their purchases must be seen by other players (what good is a monocle if nobody can see it?). If WiS is made optional, it is very likely that a large percentage (probably a majority) of players will not enable it, reducing the number of eyes on the vanity items, and thus reducing their value.
Even assuming I am wrong in all the above, the people in CCP who came up and pushed the WiS idea can't risk a large percentage of people purposefully disabling it. Allowing that will eventually lead to someone in CCP calculating that percentage and making it clear that the WiS proponents wasted a huge amount of resources without a corresponding increase in the playerbase. That is likely to cause them to be fired.
Therefore WiS cannot be optional forever. What CCP will do is provide some kind of "ship spinning" functionality (probably a slightly improved version of what already exists in CQ) and call their promise fulfilled.
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Posted - 2011.09.02 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 02/09/2011 05:37:15
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
It just shows that CCP aren't confident in their product. Its also a risk by forcing it due the loss of subs from people who can't multibox due to CQ/WiS higher requirements. Also the fact that some don't want it due to the increase in load time, which can be a pain during certain situations.
and increased strain/load leading to increased heat on the gpu. Which is funny how thats never happened before with this game (or any other game) on my system and the overalll opinion seems to be "buy a new cooling system scrub" to which I answer: "sure. Wire me the money"
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn CCP should have made WiS before releasing $60 monacles.
Priority in actions reveal priority of motivations.
To further the comparison to STO, it was obvious Cryptic and Atari were screwed for money when it came out or they wouldnt have ridden then C-Store so hard WITH a subscription payment plan too (and broke their word about vanity items the day it launched). That would seem to be the case here. MMOs dont put out cash shops like this without the motivation of "oh **** whered the hookers an caviar go??" Dont compare this to WoW an say "they have..." cause THEY arent selling shirts an ****, an the only MMO I can really compare it to is STO with their uniform sales.
ah... sorry if Im hard to understand, Im filtering it through a layer of Vicadin
-------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Greagor
Originally by: Prince Spiderman WTB your problems. Really! Reminder: CCP never made a promise and you are playing a frakking game - A GAME! -where ship spinning is 0.00000000001% important for the gameplay.
Which means it is still important.
love ppl trying to make THIS comparison. Because the Nex shop and walking outside my pod is REQUIRED by "gameplay?" How long has this game been out again an its done fine without it? -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 02/09/2011 13:57:06
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Just to be clear, I never said you woudln't get ship spinning back, I said there wouldn't be an old hangar view.
lol look, CCP doesnt even know it isnt ACTUALLY about spinning the ship
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
If CCP wanted to get some proper revenue from the micro transactions they should have removed a zero from the NeX prices.
Hilmar has commanded that they NOT do this. and if you think theyve backed off their "fearless" ideals, look in the Nex store. Theyre "staying the course"
-------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Razin Edited by: Razin on 01/09/2011 20:46:56
These are just words here, I have no way to check their veracity (even if any of it was relevant to this discussion). I can, however, see your posting history. And it is quite revealing, if a little too much.
So you are saying, you don't know, yet you DO know?
A real conundrum we find ourselves in, 
No, I'm saying it's irrelevant, and that the rest of your posts speak for themselves (as I've noted).
yea that guys funny. If they put in pay to win, he'll leave but till then we should all shut up an roll over -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.02 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Razin that CCP Zulu WAS so fond of.
Doesnt seem to be the case anymore especially given that theyre removing the option to opt out of it -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |

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Posted - 2011.09.05 01:18:00 -
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Im just annoyed theyre taking out my ability to opt out of the WiS Given that they said it would be optional -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |
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